Originally aired October 19, 2025 on Extropy On AIr.
Transformation is a direction, not a destination. In the very first episode of Extropy On AIr, Jillian Causey, Mike Jasper and Kevin Zirkle introduce the show and explain why Extropy Advisors started it: to cut through the buzzwords and the sales pitches and share honest, experience-based conversations about what real finance transformation takes.
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Key takeaways
- Most transformation content is either too academic or a sales pitch. Extropy On AIr is built to be honest and grounded in real experience.
- The show features real client journeys, the lessons learned and the wins, from the people doing the work.
- Partners, clients and finance leaders all get a seat at the table, because no one transforms alone.
- Extropy looks beyond the tool to the bottlenecks around it, and builds its own digital solutions to close those gaps.
- Transformation works best in cycles: improve, reach a steady state, measure the value and come back for the next sprint.
Why did Extropy Advisors launch a podcast?
Jillian, Extropy’s Director of Marketing and Culture, explains the gap the show is meant to fill. Most conversations about transformation are either too academic or a big sales pitch. What is missing is a grounded, honest perspective from people who are in the room with clients, making hard decisions, untangling complex tech stacks and building solutions that stick.
Mike adds that if you search for finance digital transformation or procure-to-pay automation, you will find plenty of thought leadership, but much of it is disconnected from reality. Finance teams are trying to keep pace with new platforms, compliance mandates and fast-moving AI. The goal is to share the real stories: what went well, what nearly broke, the light bulb moments, and how others can learn from them without spending a year reinventing the wheel.
Kevin sees the show as a way to build relationships at scale and to give clients and partners a direct line to Extropy’s thinking. Extropy isn’t just an implementer. It is a connector between clients, technology and real outcomes.
What does Transform Forward mean?
Transform Forward is part of Extropy’s culture. As Jillian puts it, transformation isn’t a project, it is a mindset you keep developing. It isn’t about reacting to change, it is about leading it.
Mike frames it as continuous improvement. Reach a first milestone and a steady state, let users step back and recover from change fatigue, then come back for another sprint to improve the areas that didn’t go as far as you wanted. Measuring where you started and where you landed, and putting a value on it, keeps the momentum going so you don’t end up with just a tool.
What will listeners hear on Extropy On AIr?
- Partner series with the technology providers behind Extropy’s client work, including Basware, Esker and Raindrop, covering what makes each solution different and how to get the most from it.
- Real client journeys, including where projects succeed, where they stall and how to avoid surprises.
- Voices from the trenches, with CFOs, controllers and heads of shared services.
- Extropy’s own digital solutions, built to close gaps around automation.
Mike explains that Extropy looks at the whole process, not just the tool, and finds the bottlenecks before, after and around what is being automated. That has led to Extropy Digital solutions for problems like splitting invoices and retrieving invoices from vendor portals, an evolving toolkit based on where clients see the need. Learn more about Extropy’s products.
Who is the podcast for?
It is for finance professionals, digital leaders and operations teams navigating real change. Kevin speaks directly to anyone who feels stuck in a platform or just finished an implementation that didn’t deliver what they hoped. Mike notes that Extropy is often brought in after a launch, when a client is overwhelmed, to help optimize, course correct and rebuild trust in the investment. If that sounds like you, he says, you aren’t behind. You are ready for the next phase.
In their words
Transformation isn’t a destination, it’s a direction.
Jillian Causey, Extropy Advisors
You’re not behind, you’re just ready for that next phase.
Mike Jasper, Extropy Advisors
About the speakers
Jillian Causey is Director of Marketing and Culture at Extropy Advisors, where she leads how Extropy shares its story, communicates transformation to the market and highlights client success, working closely with CEO Ravit Gutman.
Mike Jasper is VP of Finance Transformation at Extropy Advisors, where he leads digital transformation and client success, working hands-on with clients to set success criteria, optimize their people, process and technology, and measure the results.
Kevin Zirkle is Director of Business Development at Extropy Advisors, where he works across Extropy’s partner ecosystem, matching organizations with the right technology and the right people to move transformation from the whiteboard into production.
FAQ
What is Extropy On AIr?
Extropy On AIr is the podcast from Extropy Advisors about real-world finance and digital transformation. It features honest conversations with the Extropy team, technology partners and finance leaders about what is working, what isn’t and how teams can move faster with more confidence.
Who is the Extropy On AIr podcast for?
It is for finance professionals, digital and transformation leaders, and operations teams navigating change, including CFOs, controllers and heads of shared services, whether they are choosing a platform, mid-implementation or trying to get more value from a system they already have.
What does Transform Forward mean?
Transform Forward is Extropy’s philosophy that transformation is a direction, not a destination. Rather than a one-time project, it is a commitment to keep improving in cycles: reach a steady state, measure the value, give teams a break from change fatigue, then come back for the next round of improvements.
Keep exploring
- All episodes of Extropy On AIr
- The first partner series: The Human Advantage: Introducing Esker + Extropy
- Our partner series
- Why Extropy
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